Excepcionalmente, el rabbi Cu Chulaínn tratará por segunda vez el tema de Teresa de Calcuta, en razón de los numerosos y acalorados comentarios que su anterior post ha suscitado. Dichos comentarios se pueden encontrar unos posts más abajo, pero para facilitar la lectura, se citarán debidamente identificados y entrcomillados.
Estimados comentaristas, Alvaro, Manuel y el señor Anónimo:
Me complace mucho ver que por fin alguien entra al trapo y me critica, por fin tengo la ocasión de desarrollar aún más mis aseveraciones. Para ser sincero, he de decir que me quedé un poco descontento del post sobre Teresa de Calcuta, ya que creo que es demasiado corto, y no desarrollo mis ideas con la extensión debida. Así que es un placer para mí recoger vuestro(s) guante(s), responderos y, si es posible, poner así coto a semejantes rebuznos.
En el primer comentario de Alvaro, leemos:
“Increíble. He visto basura en internet,pero nada comparado con lo pestilente del cerebro de quien ha escrito esto y quienes lo secundan. Me parece verdaderamente deleznable que se insulte a una mujer como esta. Seguramente usted habrá hecho mucho más por los pobres que ella verdad? La insulta por amarlos y entregarles su vida? Por predicar el catolicismo a la vez? Cree usted que hace algún bien a sus hermanos judíos dando la imagen de déspota desagradecido e "individuo" sin corazón ni sentimientos que está dando?”
A lo que tengo que decir lo siguiente: sí, caballero (sin comillas), me reafirmo en lo dicho, no creo que diga nada que no sea verdad sobre la Madre Teresa, si eso son insultos, habría que ver si lo ofensivo y deleznable son sus acciones o mis palabras. En cuanto a lo que hecho yo por los pobres, usted no lo sabe y además no viene a cuento, no estoy comparándome con ella, sino comentando lo que ella hizo, no necesito hacer lo mismo para poder comentarlo. Si insulto a Teresa (si es que se pueden considerar insultos, pero bueno, para agilizar le concedo que sean insultos) es por mentir y engañar, por promover un “amor” supuestamente puro e indiscriminado, pero que no es en realidad a cambio de su ayuda les exigía adherirse a una doctrina.
Para Teresa, Dios lo creó todo y es dueño de todo, así que como estamos desposeídos de toda nuestra libertad y responsabilidad, debemos delegar en esa maravillosa y desinteresada institución que es la Iglesia Católica, así que Teresa se atreve a promover las siguientes barbaridades:
- prohibido divorciarse: (y ya me dirán ustedes si se puede encontrar algo más retrógrado y oscurantista que prohibir el divorcio) es decir que se condena al individuo a que sólo pueda tener relaciones en el marco del matrimonio, controlado éste por la Iglesia Católica, pero si este falla, no hay vuelta atrás y se ha de vivir toda la vida con ese error, es decir una intromisión en la libertad individual y una imposición flagrante,
- prohibido abortar: evidentemente, si nuestro cuerpo no nos pertenece, tampoco nos pertenecen sus funciones, así que el aborto queda prohibido. Da igual si un embarazo puede arruinar dos vidas (la de la madre y la del hijo), da igual si esto retira a las mujeres el mayor de los derechos que han conseguido, el de gestionar la reproducción, da igual si eres bosnia y el padre de tu hijo es ese chetnik serbio borracho que te violó, todo eso da igual. Es más, el anti-abortismo en India es aún más reprobable, porque en un país superpoblado esto redunda objetivamente en perjuicio de las poblaciones a las que se quiere “sacar de la pobreza”, manteniendo a las mujeres esclavizadas en el hogar y con un crecimiento descontrolado. Esto da que pensar sobre el verdadero efecto de las obras de Teresa de Calcuta.
- eso si, tratándose de un esbirra de la Iglesia Católica (aunque con gusto generalizo esta afirmación a todas las religiones), todo ello aderezado con el conveniente doble rasero. Es decir que el divorcio está muy mal si eres un pobre indio, pero si se trata de Lady Di, la princesa de los pobres (jua jua jua) entonces no pasa nada. No olviden tampoco, estimados comentaristas, que Teresa tuvo relaciones estrechas y amistosas con dictadores como Enver Hoxha, (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enver_Hoxha) o Pinochet. Es decir que el aborto y el sida están mal, muy mal, vas al infierno por eso, pero oprimir un país durante 40 años, ejecutar a decenas de miles de personas, suprimir las libertades y la democracia, pues tampoco está tan mal, oiga, unas oraciones y al Cielo. Si hay algo de positivo en esto, caballeros, es que ustedes merecen calificativos mucho más severos que los que me han lanzado.
Un ejemplo que cuando la expresión "matar dos pájaros de un tiro" cobra su verdadero significado.
A continuación, se leen extractos de burradas diversas extraídas del Talmud. Eso no me afecta en absoluto, ya que qué se puede esperar de un libro “sagrado” escrito hace miles de años? Más adelante les explicitaré cual es exactamente el credo de nuestro Sagrado Sanedrín Rabínico del Atlántico, pero por ahora les diré que no seguimos en absoluto ese libro. De hecho, todos los libros sagrados y revelados contienen, por su longitud y por su naturaleza, palabras de muerte, opresión, prohibición y odio, dedicadas sobre todo a los que no son de esa religión. Dése si no un garbeo por la Biblia, donde se hartará de encontrar innumerables barbaridades, hechos inverosímiles y declaraciones inaceptables incluso para oscurantistas militantes como parecen ser ustedes.
Pido a Dios que le perdone y que me de a mi fuerza para perdonar a toda la gente de su calaña,al igual que Él les perdonó cuando lo asesinaron. Pido a la Madre Teresa que desde el cielo interceda por su alma y mente putrefacta, y le pido por favor que antes de abrir la boca para criticar a alguien como ella, se mire a sí mismo y a la raíz de su gente. Hágase un favor a sí mismo y a las personas con un mínimo de humanidad.
Gracias, pero no quiero que pida nada por mi a su Dios, no existe, ni, sobre todo, a Teresa de Calcuta, está muerta. En cuanto a ustedes, relájense, no malgasten su vida en esa gran mentira, no hay más vida que esta, no hay más allá, no se dejen engañar, ustedes son dueños de si mismos, ejerzan su libertad, piensen por ustedes mismos, no dejen a unos ancianos castrados y vestidos con túnicas pensar por ustedes, no tienes nada que perdonar, Jesús tal vez ni siquiera existió, simplemente vivan su vida lo mejor posible, sean fieles a sí mismos y a su verdad y, por favor, dejen ustedes en paz a los demás.
Ah y por último, me pide usted que me mire a mi mismo y a la raíz de mi gente. Y ese pequeño desliz? Que quiere decir eso? Quiere usted decir que por ser judío llevo en mi sangre algún tipo de mal intrínseco? Habla usted en serio? No será usted un antisemita?
Me reitero en que debería usted pensar un poco más por sí mismo, pero añado que quizás debería leer un poco más, y algo actualizado, no el el Talmud o la Biblia precisamente. Ah, y tenga cuidado con lo que dice, amigo, ya que de ahí a justificar el antisemitismo, mil años de pogromos y sobre todo la Shoah (el episodio más horrible e inhumano de la Historia de la humanidad, estará de acuerdo conmigo) no hay más que un paso, y ya sabe, a Jesús no le gustaba que se matara a la gente, ni siquiera a los judíos (no olvide que, por increíble que parezca, Jesús el mismo era judío).
Pero esto no es todo, ya que hay más comentarios, todos ellos bastante airados.
"mas vale callar y parecer tonto que abrir la boca y demostrarlo"
si estar en contra del asesinato de un hijo, fundar la Congregación de las Misioneras de la Caridad,estar al lado de los mas necesitados para darle esperanzas... si todo eso y mucho mas te parece tan detestable a ti y a tu Sagrado Sanedrín Rabínico del Atlántico, me gustaría ver lo que tu y los de tu sanedrín estan aportando a este mundo...
"No hay que cambiar la religión de los hombres, sino su corazón"
Predicar amor haciendo una llamada al odio? No entiendo que credibilidad pueden tener ustedes cuando difunden mensajes de odio y opiniones como si fueran verdades. Quizá me equivoque y ustedes realizen obras que justifiquen sus palabras, ¿o sólo se quedan en estas últimas? Menos palabra y más obras con amor, eso es lo que necesita este mundo, y van ustedes y se dedican a insultar al amor en persona, a la Madre Teresa , quién dedico su vida a actuar con amor para los demás, con muy pocas palabras, casi sólo obras. Al contario que ustedes sus palabras sólo describen amor, ternura, felicidad. Como ella dijo "haced las cosas pequeñas con gran amor", si más de uno nos pararamos a pensar estas palabras...No m creo unas palabras como las de ustedes, sólo denotar odio y maldad,una pena que predique a los demás con estas dos armas dentro de usted.
Rezaré por que el amor resalte en su vida para que así en su misión salpique a los demás.
Y este, muy breve, pero cuya profunda sinrazón merece todo un análisis.....
Un Bin Laden pero del amor? sin comentarios.
Con razón aún existe el antisemitismo.
El último es sin duda el mejor:
Si yo fuera ateo y leyera este artículo publicado por "el personaje: lope de aguirre" vería esta religión (el Judaísmo) como la más racista, xenófoba, insolidaria, irrespetuosa, intransigente, fanática, sectaria, celosa, opresiva, terca, exterminadora,... de todas las religiones del Mundo.
En efecto, estimado comentarista, la religión judía es racista, insolidaria, irrespetuosa, intransigente, fanática, sectaria, celosa, opresiva y terca. Pero si después de esto no añades que la religión católica es, por lo menos, otro tanto, francamente dudaré de tu buena fe. Vemos que el Judaísmo es racista en cuanto que presenta Alianza de un pueblo con Dios excluyendo a los demás, pero vemos también que el Cristianismo es la religión bajo la cual se han organizado las operaciones más racistas de la Historia de la Humanida, como la trata de esclavos (recordemos que los esclavos eran bautizados, eso era todo lo que hacía la Iglesia por ellos). Pero de entre todos tus adjetivos, me llama particularmente la atención que se tilde al Judaísmo de exterminador.
El balance de muertes y exterminaciones varias es abultadamente mayor en el Cristianismo: los judíos tienen dos momentos históricos en los que se dedican a exterminar, uno en la época del reino de Judea, con unas decenas de miles muertos como mucho, y la ocupación de Palestina, también con decenas de miles de muertos y centenares de miles de desplazados. El resto del tiempo, más bien han sido lo que han sufrido exterminaciones.
En cuanto al Cristianismo, la cuenta es larga. Considerando tan solo los acontecimientos más importantes, tenemos las Cruzadas con decenas de miles de muertos y abundantes masacres de judíos; la conquista de América, legitimada por el Catolicismo, centenares de miles de muertos, millones de personas esclavizadas y desposeidas de su cultura y s religión; o la Inquisición, responsable de un número indeterminado de muertos, pero muchos, a lo largo de siglos de actuación. Además de eso, la Iglesia Católica ha auspiciado desde su accesión al poder en el siglo IV hasta el siglo XX el antisemitismo, organizando abundantes masacres de judíos, los clásicos pogromos. Pero eso no es ser racista, insolidario y exterminador, verdad?
Hitler mató a mucha gente, y entre ellos habían algunos judíos. Hitler no es nada comparado con lo que este personaje (y esta gente) pueden llegar a ser.
Verdaderamente la has cagao "personajillo". Creo que si Abraham saliera de su tumba te ofrecería como sacrificio ante Dios, y Dios no mandará a su Ángel para salvarte.
Espero que pidas perdón si es que te queda algo de Humanidad.
Ya se dice que la ignorancia es atrevida, no puedo explicarme sino que sostenga unas tesis tan flojas, con sumo gusto le sacaré de su oscuridad. Entre los muertos imputables a Hitler, se calcula que fueron unos 11 millones, sin incluir las bajas de guerra. Pues bien, 6 de esos 11 millones eran judíos, otros tres millones polacos, y el resto gitanos, Testigos de Jehová, homosexuales, comunistas, minusválidos y otros. Como puedes comprobar, 6 es más de la mitad de 11, así que la expresión “entre ellos habían algunos judíos” es incorrecta, puesto que estos representaban la mayoría de esos muertos. Lo de compararme con Hitler, sobre todo por lo que “pueda llegar a ser” es tan difuso y prueba de una tal indigencia mental que me hace gracia.
Ha sido un placer responder vuestras monsergas, nunca dejará de sorprenderme que en 2008 siga existiendo gente que defiende semejantes posturas. Próximamente publicaré un post explicando cómo es y en que cree en Sagrado Sanedrín Rabínico del Atlántico.
Hasta entonces,
Shalom
jueves, 3 de abril de 2008
Consultorio Rabínico: Madre Teresa II, vuelve el oscurantismo
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Apa Lope, Iosu naiz... kritika arrazional bat egingo dizut, bale? Badakizu ni ere nondik natorren...
En primer lugar: creo que las críticas vertidas hacia la Madre Teresa de Calcuta son, en parte, justificadas, y en parte exageradas.
No voy a entrar punto por punto, pero sí quizá en los argumentos fundamentales.
Vamos a hacer un poco de lógica escolástica: partimos de que las opiniones teológicas, morales y sociales aportadas por la susodicha Madre T. de C. son totalmente coherentes con el credo de la Iglesia católica como institución. Por tanto,
- era creyente, lo cual, a pesar de tus opiniones acerca de la inexistencia de Dios, no es reprochable en sí. A mi no me gusta Wittgenstein.
- comulgaba con los principales preceptos sobre moral con la Santa Sede, lo cual es criticable en cuanto a sus consecuencias, ya que, una persona pública de su categoría tiene mucha influencia entre la gente.
¿por qué? Porque, a pesar de lo que digas, ella era una benefactora de los indigentes de Calcuta. Una persona que se dedica enteramente a los demás, en mi opinón, merece al menos un aplauso.
El problema, que comparto contigo enteramente, es que en cuanto el resto de su catecismo es todo menos liberador. Y si algo pretendió Jesús fue liberar a la gente de las chorradas del Sanedrín (con perdón) y del poder establecido de Herodes y del gobernador romano de turno. Pero no sólo eso, sino "echar a los demonios", lo cual significa que si aplicamos el amor a los demás como máxima absoluta, debemos hacer lo máximo posible para evitar que una persona sufra por ser como es, por haber tenido ciertas desgracias, etc, etc
Y en eso falla la Madre T. de c., porque en eso mismo falla la Iglesia, como institución: se ha convertido en un atajo de "sepulcros blanqueados", que someten al hombre a la regla.
Pero, debemos entender que la M. T. de C. es hija de una generación anterior. Contextualiza, Lope, no puedes exigir a una monja de 87 años, que sea abierta respecto al sexo o a no sé qué cosas... incluso nuestras madres y abuelas cojean a veces en eso.
Y por eso mismo te digo, que contextualices las Cruzadas y otra clase de barbaridades del pasado, como el Santo Oficio. Porque, siguiendo con el ejemplo, ambos son instituciones que el poder "civil" empleó muchas veces como mera justificación para ejercer el poder y conquistar, eliminar al adversario etc. No hay que olvidar que la mayor desgracia para la Iglesia fue exactamente esa, la de converirse en una institución "civil" más. Un estado necesita fondos y eso viene de tener adeptos... El Vaticano es un estado y actúa, actuó y actuará siempre como tal.
Pero también he de añadir, que gracias a Dios, hay gente, que vive al pie del cañón, como fue Ellacuría, como es Sobrino, o como son muchos misioneros, párrocos, y otros agentes de pastoral que viven el día a día y no se dedican exclusivamente de percibir el beneficio, machacar a los que vienen a confesarse y adoctrinar políticamente desde el púlpito.
Por tanto, entre tanto claro oscuro:
- la Iglesia la conforman personas y cabrones hay en todas partes, sobre todo si tienen poder e influencia. Cuanto más arriba vives en la torre de marfil, más pequeña ves a la gente abajo y todos parecen iguales.
- no hay persona en el mundo que sea irreprochable para todos... la M. T. de C. tenía muchas pegas a nivel moral, pero me parece que su labor diaria es encomiable, porque cada uno elige vivir esta vida como quiere y puede, y ella eligió ayudar a los demás.
- yo me quedo con los cristianos de mi alrededor, desde mi madre, a José Antonio Pagola, los monitores de mi grupo de jóvenes, etc. Porque pensamos que se puede follar sin hacer daño a nadie, pensamos que cada persona es un mundo y hay que escuchar antes de nada al que sufre y que el voluntariado debe tener necesariamente un objetivo de transformación de la sociedad.
Por cierto, léete el libro de Pagola... el Sanedrín no te lo aceptará, pero quizá en secreto puedas. Quizá descubras que Jesús, como personaje histórico existió, que el Evangelio encierra cosas bastante más interesantes de lo que nos han dicho toda la vida, etc.
Agur eta ohore, a ver si quedamos la semana que viene... aio!
Jode Lope, como te lo pasas eh!! jajaja debes de estar disfrutando de lo lindo.
Shalom.
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The Wo Yuan in match spy casts minor details 3 minutes medium, the basket on Yinggelishen is procurable perform hit 3 minutes. Long shot of Harris exterior line, close over of suddenly husband heart Jielibuke. Gram of the cloth in He Jie connects Si Daji 4 minutes, division Wo Eryuan casts 3 minutes procurable. Si Daji eats repeatedly inside two seconds two write down foul, kaerdelong is same inside 4 seconds get 2 times repeatedly foul. After this piston replaces brunt leave the playing field, team is final with 103-114 not enemy eagle.
Eagle head sends: Case of the base of a fruit, Huofude, Smith, Kewoer, Shidiwensen
Piston head sends: Si Daji, door collect, Xingeer, mark Hill, Kaerdelong(Responsibility edits: Shen Min is clear)
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